The New IFB considers the modern nation of Israel to be a fraud and it also teaches that Christians rather than Jews are God's chosen people. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading dont read as a duty each day but as a searching for fellowship each day. No one leaves on good terms unfortunately. But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. WebThe Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. It uses the Bible to treat everything from porn addiction All rights reserved. You can clap in church, we did that Mountain, the church I grew up though we didnt do it very often though. If I chose to forgive him there would be hope for our relationship. I dont even know what a Scofield Bible is but I believe God can use divorced people. Jack Hyles came to our church and you would have thought Jesus himself was preaching! I dare say probably not. We believe that all the redeemed, once saved are kept by God's power and are thus secure in Christ forever. Sometimes it makes you wonder if they have EVER read/learned anything from Jesus! XII. For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. Auckland, New Zealand, New IFB pastor Logan Robertson was deported from Australia in July 2018 after being accused of harassing Muslims at two Brisbane mosques. [4], Despite the website's claims that each church is independent, some followers and former followers of the New IFB have accused Anderson of having complete control over the organization and ejecting anyone who has a minor disagreement with him. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 Fannin was later ejected as the lead preacher of SBC-Jax. 7. I would of rather take the word literally than follow the world. Tattoos are the marks of the Devil I really dont know if they are marks of the devil but I do agree that tattoos are sinful even if its against the Old Testament. I get the vibe that you were alienate by IFB movement at some point, as were a lot of us, but dont try to use that as an excuse to go on a crusade against fellow believers. This is because we live in this flesh. You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. Besides saying that those who practice any of these that arent saved is wrong because that is judging. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. WebSecond, it is Fundamental. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. How about shortchanging the Lord out of 20 minutes of Sunday service time worship for game show gimmickry hype to boost attendance? Scofield Bible!!!! That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. 4,2, and 7 month old. If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Baptists do not believe that baptism brings salvation, but rather it is the answer of a good conscience toward God. I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. All people need to do is humbly ask for one. I understand others dont like hearing God gave inspiration to the Kjv, but its true. 5 Everything they do is for show. This list reminded me of a few I forgot about, but one I dont think youve mentioned yet is If your teenage boys and girls have to be separate and swim in different pools or at different times when you are on a teen outing or camping trip lol. If your pastor refuses to be called Reverend, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. THESE SERMON OUTLINES By Michael D. ONeal, Founder and Pastor Since 1986 Of. Does he always heal people no. I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. The thing is, its so insidious, you dont really realize its happening until youre firmly entrenched. The pew hymnal is inspired by God While I favor hymns but I wouldnt necessarily say that because even though I do use the hymnal, most people at the church I go to now sing from the Power Point. There I am separate does that mean Im never going to curse, or think negative thoughts. Mental health issues are just another health issue people have. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). If your church encouraged you to make your own decision about becoming baptized, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I survived the Christian fundamentalist world - Baptist News You obviously didnt read the entire list see number 47. You can read some of them in the comments section and in the testimonial section here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. Although some Independent Baptist churches refuse affiliation with Baptist denominations, various Independent Baptist Church denominations have been founded. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated congregations on its website, most in the U.S. with some in Australia, Canada, the Philippines and South Africa. The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. Simply not true. You can read more about that here: https://baptistdeception.com/cult/. This is an assumption.. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. N/A sad stuff particularly the responses from obviously brainwashed bible folks. However, some (I agree Ogrodnik) are unfair and judgmental. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. If a child is behaving like a child (i.e., appropriate for his/her age), but you think they are being misbehaving and rebellious, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 40. Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. We believe that the ecumenical movement is a demonic attempt to unite all Christian denominations around experience to the disregard of biblical doctrine. I have no position or opinion of this By the way Jason, if you think theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse, I feel sorry for you. The New Testament church should be an independent church. Id have more time to minister to the lost if I didnt have to work to repair the damage done by the IFB. Years ago, I heard a very funny but truthful skit on what was or wasnt OK. Each verse ended with, Its OK, because Independent Fundamental Baptist Preachers do it.. Should we stay living together with our baby in fornication? A church that has tract rack I dont know what they are for but my old church has one for storing hymn books (or hymnals), pew bibles, bible study books, etc. (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. Im so thankful for Gods grace on your life and the lives of your family. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. They had made an idol out of church attendance. 30. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. My church members are filled with sin and give account to God alone. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. She told her son Kenneth, who was 16, he had to start attending the academy and the church with her. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. You got me I am an IFB college grad. We believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, were temporary. No, its only announced in the powers points as a time and place. Maybe you had a bad experience or many years of bad experiences at an IFB church, but that will never excuse you from bad mouthing any of Gods people or the many IFB churches the Lord uses to spread His word or send missionaries to the remotest parts of the world to seek those who are lost. 28:19-20; Acts 2:41-42, 18:18; I Corinthians 11:23-26). are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. I was taught that. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). Get over it and work to rebuild the relationships instead of tearing down. 24 Blind guides! Wherever there are people, there is sin. We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). That doesnt necessarily mean they arent a dangerous cult. While I am not against crucifixes but using them in public worship is idolatry because the bible forbids idols. Most Christians believe everything in the Bible. I have read other versions of the Bible. Our only Head is the Lord Jesus Christ and our only headquarters is heaven. The Lord is doing His work in ths world through local churches. You dont just GO WITH THE FLOW. Correction is my discernment. We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. 18. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. Same position regarding IFB belief 29. Independent Fundamentalist Baptists are a creepy, Pastors daughter did my hair and cleaned my dress with baby wipes. No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. I did learn a lot. The truth is, if you had sex with ANY woman before you finally decided to marry one of them, you are a divorced man. For you say that it means nothing to swear by Gods Temple, but that it is binding to swear by the gold in the Temple. 17 Blind fools! Anyway, Im sorry that you had a bad experience at an IFB church, but that doesnt excuse you for mocking Biblical beliefs. Its the inspired word of God. However, it wasnt Baptists that ordained him and of the IFB folks I know, they are lukewarm to the Scofield bible. But if people come here to attack me and my views I will defend myself. We wanted Gods blessing of Mariage. Like I said, forgiveness doesnt mean anything other than forgiveness. 23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. This led to calls to evict Stedfast Baptist Church from its location at a strip mall in Watauga, Texas. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Its never spoken but up there to read. What an extensive list. That is contrary to Bible doctrine for a pastor. The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. 34. If you think that singing anything other than hymns in church is too liberal, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 15. If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. Hes a different man today thanks to Gods grace in our life. 26. All churches are full of sinful people, including the pastor. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. Ephesians 2:8-9 47. I have to admit its a lot less work than actually thinking through things. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith Secular music other than old time gospel hymns is sin I dont see anything wrong with rock & roll, oldies music, and country music though it has gotten worse these days than it was years ago but the music I hate the most are hip hop, heavy metal generally, and especially RAP music which my brother likes.